My 230SL

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I'm so proud of this automobile.  She still needs some work but, but she's worth it!
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Tony M
1965 230SL (Auto)

[Cees Klumper]

Looks great, and just like mine. One thing to consider, is to paint the hubcaps. Good luck with it!
Cees Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic

[hands_aus]

Hey Tony M,
The hub caps are usually the same colour as the hard top colour. That assumes that you have a hard top.
Bob (Brisbane,Australia)
early 250 SL, RHD

[Tom]

Tony,
Cees and Bob noted that originally these cars have hubcaps painted the color of the hard top.  For what it's worth, I realy like the chrome hubcaps un-painted.  Unless you plan to show the car, you could avoid the expense of having them painted-they look great!
Best,
Tom

[kns]

A beautiful car Tony.
I note that your rocker panels are body colour. I ran past the group last month the question of the correct colour pattern (my car is the same colour as yours, and had body colour rocker panels) and I received a number of very helpful replies, including the following from Achim:
"Definitely all pagodas had satin-black (or very dark grey - I'll try to find out soon!) rocker panels. The satin-black color goes on top of the Body Schutz (Steinschlagschutz - gravel protection paint). Certainly the detachable rocker panels were not factory-painted with body color as they were mounted separately. If you find traces of body paint on the rocker panels, this is certainly of one of the several resprays that most of our cars have had throughout their life.
The wheel houses were factory-painted with body protection (Schutz) as well and then oversprayed in body color.
I am still not absolutely sure about the trunk.
It seems to be pretty clear the the trunk of the 280 SL was painted in a very dark grey ("Tiefdunkelgrau" (deep dark grey), RAL 7164 or something like that. Hans Strom knows the correct paint number.
However, this color is not correct for the 230 SLs, at least not the earlier ones. Those (like mine) were clearly and absolutely sure painted in satin-black.
I'll try to get some more info on this soon."
It's still a personal preference thing, but if your car is a work in progress it's worth a thought. I went to original spec., and am happy with the result.
Cheers,
kns.
1965 230SL, Manual
[1965 220SEb Coupe, Man.]

[LFrank]

T - my 65 230 sl (also an automatic) was sold without a hardtop, and the hubcaps I rec'd (from original owner's son are also unpainted). Did chrome caps come on all non-hardtop cars??
LFrank
Washington DC
65 230 sl - auto
DB334/Hellblau

[114015]

F
rstenfeldbruck???
Ooops?
Hello Toni!
You are posting from the States but have a German licence plate on your car? Is that original or did you mount it?
The FFB on the plate means that it was registered in F
rstenfeldbruck (South Bavaria), Germany. Was the car recently imported into the States?
Very interesting!
Achim
(Magdeburg, Germany)

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quote:Originally posted by 114015

F
rstenfeldbruck???
Achim
Thank you for the information as to the origin of the tags.  I find these things interesting.
The vehicle was purchased new by a USA Service man.  He bought two, one for him and one for his wife.  This was his wifes car.  The vehicles were imported to the United States in 1976 (I have the shipping documents).
I did not place the license plate on the car.  The previous owner was proud to inform me, "that's a real German license plate, I had a friend bring it back from Germany".  It's sad to say there's probably a police report in South Bavaria that goes with this tag, but I didn't ask any further questions.
Cheers!
Tony
Ooops?
Hello Toni!
You are posting from the States but have a German licence plate on your car? Is that original or did you mount it?
The FFB on the plate means that it was registered in F
rstenfeldbruck (South Bavaria), Germany. Was the car recently imported into the States?
Very interesting!
Achim
(Magdeburg, Germany)

Tony M
1965 230SL (Auto)

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quote:Originally posted by LFrank
LFrank
I have the original hub caps and they are painted the color of the car.  I have a hard top, but it has not been reassembled following paint.
Cheers
Tony
T - my 65 230 sl (also an automatic) was sold without a hardtop, and the hubcaps I rec'd (from original owner's son are also unpainted). Did chrome caps come on all non-hardtop cars??
LFrank
Washington DC
65 230 sl - auto
DB334/Hellblau

Tony M
1965 230SL (Auto)

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kns
I'm sorry I have taken so long to reply.
The previous owner did all the body work and paint.  My vehicle was not origally white, it was a pale, creamy, yellow with a matching hardtop.  My trunk is satin black like yours and I believe this paint is original.
I'm new to W113's and have a lot to learn.  I'm sorry I cannot be of more assistance.
Cheers!
Tony

quote:Originally posted by kns

A beautiful car Tony.
I note that your rocker panels are body colour. I ran past the group last month the question of the correct colour pattern (my car is the same colour as yours, and had body colour rocker panels) and I received a number of very helpful replies, including the following from Achim:
"Definitely all pagodas had satin-black (or very dark grey - I'll try to find out soon!) rocker panels. The satin-black color goes on top of the Body Schutz (Steinschlagschutz - gravel protection paint). Certainly the detachable rocker panels were not factory-painted with body color as they were mounted separately. If you find traces of body paint on the rocker panels, this is certainly of one of the several resprays that most of our cars have had throughout their life.
The wheel houses were factory-painted with body protection (Schutz) as well and then oversprayed in body color.
I am still not absolutely sure about the trunk.
It seems to be pretty clear the the trunk of the 280 SL was painted in a very dark grey ("Tiefdunkelgrau" (deep dark grey), RAL 7164 or something like that. Hans Strom knows the correct paint number.
However, this color is not correct for the 230 SLs, at least not the earlier ones. Those (like mine) were clearly and absolutely sure painted in satin-black.
I'll try to get some more info on this soon."
It's still a personal preference thing, but if your car is a work in progress it's worth a thought. I went to original spec., and am happy with the result.
Cheers,
kns.
1965 230SL, Manual
[1965 220SEb Coupe, Man.]

Tony M
1965 230SL (Auto)

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Tom
I have the original hub caps.  They're a little beat up as you might imaging following 38+ years of service.  I'm thinking of repainting a couple of them as a test.  If they look good, I'll see about having the new ones painted.  I don't intend on showing the car.  I intend to drive it daily!
Cheers!
Tony

quote:Originally posted by Tom

Tony,
Cees and Bob noted that originally these cars have hubcaps painted the color of the hard top.  For what it's worth, I realy like the chrome hubcaps un-painted.  Unless you plan to show the car, you could avoid the expense of having them painted-they look great!
Best,
Tom

Tony M
1965 230SL (Auto)

[114015]

Hello Toni,
((It's sad to say there's probably a police report in South Bavaria that goes with this tag, but I didn't ask any further questions.
Cheers!
Tony))
Ah naaah, don't worry to much! If it was "stolen", the owner will get (buy) a new one. But you can check! I can't really detect that on your pretty good picture ... but does the number plate have an additional silver-colored stamp below that yellow one?
The upper one is round and colored, thus it is a rear number plate indicating with its numbers until when the car had TUEV (German Federal State inspection). This is the upper number indicating for the month and the center number for the year.
The lower stamp (tag) is for licensing the car. If it is scratched off (by the local German car licensing office), the car is no longer registered and most likely scrapped or sold elswhere.

Best,
Achim
(Magdeburg, Germany)

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Beautiful Car!!! I've said it before, these cars look soooo elegant in white! And, consider painting the hard top and hub caps white too. But you'll have to find someone who has the stencil for the hubcaps. Don't let someone just "mask" them, it doesn't work. Trust me, I know!
Steve W.
1968 280SL
www.stevewaddington.com/camaro