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Parking Brake Cable Clamp?
« on: September 20, 2008, 17:38:18 »
My right side parking brake cable is touching the muffler/resonator. Somehow I seem to remember that there is a part, a type of clamp, that supports the cable from the diff locating strut. I don't see this part in the spare parts book or anywhere online. Anybody know the part number (my nylock tie does the job anyway). Thanks.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2008, 18:11:07 by AWOLFF280SL »
Andy   Sarasota, FL
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Re: Parking Brake Cable Clamp?
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2008, 21:58:45 »
I had the same problem, it is a simple rubber O-ring, p/n 113 997 0241.
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Re: Parking Brake Cable Clamp?
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2008, 04:38:24 »
66andBlue, thanks. I now remembered where I saw it. Fig. 42-14/13 of the BBB shows a "fastening clip" attached to the link plate of the locating rod. This clip then holds the "rubber eye" in the diagram that you posted. It looks like it could be part #40 in your diagram. However, it's not in my 113 parts book. Maybe in the 108? Do you know this part number?
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Andy   Sarasota, FL
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Re: Parking Brake Cable Clamp?
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2008, 11:31:55 »
I copied the parts picture from my CD for the 230SL which only has pictures and no part numbers.
But you are correct, the clip [#40] is no longer shown in the 280SL parts book (10202) or the 230SL parts book (10126). Most likely it is NLA.
Alfred
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Re: Parking Brake Cable Clamp?
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2008, 19:27:46 »
Hello Al,

Here is some additional information,
  http://www.190slgroup.com/tech/clamps/WSW-install.jpg

I think Pete Lesler sells some of these obsolete clamps.
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Re: Parking Brake Cable Clamp?
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2008, 22:51:40 »
quote:
Originally posted by AWOLFF280SL

... It looks like it could be part #40 in your diagram. However, it's not in my 113 parts book. Maybe in the 108? Do you know this part number?

Hi Andy,
I should have looked it up in the first edition of the 230SL parts book and not the last one. The p/n for #40 is: 303 995 0720. Unfortunately, it wont help you much since it is NLA.
How about using a pull tab from an aluminum can? It looks similar. :)
Alfred
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Re: Parking Brake Cable Clamp?
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2008, 03:57:07 »
I thought it looked familiar.
But if someone could take some pictures of it and scribble some dimensions, I bet that it's easily made or almost found in a hardware store.
Andy   Sarasota, FL
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Re: Parking Brake Cable Clamp?
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2008, 22:44:07 »
This is one of those topics that starts with an easy question and then becomes complicated.

This time it develops into a story about the evolution, or more accurately, the apparent degeneration of a useful part during the W113 production run.

Originally, the parking brake cable was fixed to the rear axle using an O-ring attached to a simple cable clip mounted near the cross arm. Those 2 items were part of Group 42 - the "hand brake" [upper left panel in picture]. The clip was p/n 303 995 0720. (It was used also on trucks) and the O-ring was p/n 136 997 02 40.

A bit later MB decided to change the clip to something more complicated and it became part of Group 35 - "rear axle" - with a new p/n: 113 995 0040 [#146 in the lower middle panel].
 
However, the O-ring that holds the cable remained in Group 42 with a new p/n: 136 997 02 41 [upper middle panel].
 
Curiously, by the time Edition C of the parts book was printed in Jan. 1967, the p/n for #146 had already been changed to: 000 137 010200 - and was now called a "spring washer" !! - although the picture in the book still shows a clip.

By the time the 250SL/280SL parts book was printed, #146 had indeed degenerated into a spring washer [right panel] and the new p/n is 000 137 010201.
 
The problem is the O-ring [#42] is still listed in Group 42 [upper right panel] - but what holds it and the cable up??
Any 280SL owners out there who can tell us how their hand brake cable is attached??

So next time you call a vendor to order a part and wonder why it takes the person a long time to find it (or never) now you know why. I certainly would not have gotten that far without the help of parts guy "numero uno", Dave Gallon, who informed me about the Group change for #40 -> #146.
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Re: Parking Brake Cable Clamp?
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2008, 13:18:13 »
Alfred, thanks for the explanation.
Regarding those 280SL owners who, upon checking their right side hand brake cable find that it is laying on the exhaust, also check the condition of the cable in that spot. The covering on my cable was fairly well deteriorated by the time I discovered this problem, but not yet down to the metal cable itself. I wrapped the bad area in insulation and suspended the cable from the strut rod with a heavy-duty nylock tie.
Andy   Sarasota, FL
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Re: Parking Brake Cable Clamp?
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2008, 17:08:35 »
Hi All!

As most of you, my cables are attached to the rear axle with the binding straps.  I purchased these from the local MB dealer.  I have a 280sl and even with the binding straps, the left cable hits the exhaust.  So for now, I also have it tied up with a plastic tie.  Would be nice to get this setup the correct way....




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Re: Parking Brake Cable Clamp?
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2008, 21:40:53 »
Hello Bob and Andy,
the BBB for cars after 1968 actually describes how the cable should be installed above the the muffler. See page 42-14/6&7. Now we just need to find someone who will reproduce that NLA clip!
Alfred
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Re: Parking Brake Cable Clamp?
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2008, 04:02:26 »
Thanks Alfred!
Bob  :)

quote:
Originally posted by 66andBlue

Hello Bob and Andy,
the BBB for cars after 1968 actually describes how the cable should be installed above the the muffler. See page 42-14/6&7. Now we just need to find someone who will reproduce that NLA clip!