Author Topic: Pagoda cameo in "Mad Men"  (Read 4096 times)

Douglas

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Pagoda cameo in "Mad Men"
« on: October 12, 2008, 21:43:43 »
If anyone else is watching "Mad Men" this season, I'm sure you noticed the white Pagoda SL driven by the young vixen at the hotel. The show takes places during the Kennedy administration, so the very talented stylists deserve credit for using a Pagoda without headrests. Any of us could tell, however, that it was a 280SL from the one-piece wheel covers and rear-view mirror even though the car was only shown in tight shots. I have to wonder whether the director knew the car was too new and downplayed it for that reason.... I doubt it, but I have to wonder. Generally, the stylists have been impeccable in this series.

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Re: Pagoda cameo in "Mad Men"
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2008, 22:15:08 »
Douglas, I noticed and posted a topic on the AMC Mad Men board about the year and month of the episode and the Pagoda. I didn't think they came to the States until July or later of 63. DZ

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Re: Pagoda cameo in "Mad Men"
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2008, 01:08:31 »
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Generally, the stylists have been impeccable in this series.


Well, not that impeccable.  Notice the IBM Selectric II typewriters used in the show which weren't introduced until c. 1971.  Even the original IBM Selectric wasn't introduced until mid-1961 which was well after the Kennedy/Nixon race depicted in the show.

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Re: Pagoda cameo in "Mad Men"
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2008, 06:31:23 »
MADMEN.

One of my good friends, Robert Guckenberger of Tampa Florida, was your proverbial "Mad Man" and the source of some of my Pagoda Inspiration.  Mr. G loves that show.

Mr. G wrote some stories for his local Tampa Bay Newsletter, which I reprinted in our MBCA newsletter.  Here's one:

In 1968, I was a 12 year old living in suburban New York, Long Island to be exact.  One of my neighbors was a young Bob Guckenberger, who had a lovely wife Kathy, two little boys Bobby and Kenny, and lived just up the street.  I used to baby-sit for his kids as they didn’t like “girl” babysitters—I was more fun, playing baseball with them.  Mr. G as he was always known drove a series of Mercedes cars (part of the job!) which were quite rare in our working class neighborhood 40 years ago.  He had a blue 250SL, followed by a red 280SL and then a 1971 250C.  Not long after that, Mr. G moved his family to Florida to work on the Chris-Craft account, and we moved away from New York.  Several years ago we reconnected.  I found out he was once an active participant in the MBCA, and rejoined not too long ago.  The old SL’s and 250C are long gone, being replaced by a CLK Cabriolet.  The kids are grown up, but Mr. G still writes a little for the Tampa Bay Section, in short essays about his experiences with the Mercedes account at Ogilvy & Mather.  Here’s the first in a series.    –Michael Salemi

Smokin’ off the line in a 6.3
By Bob Guckenberger, Tampa Bay Section

When the 300SEL 6.3 came out in June of 1968, I was a copywriter on the Mercedes-Benz account at Ogilvy & Mather advertising in New York. Mercedes wanted an ad to introduce the car in the car buff magazines such as Car&Driver, Road&Track and others.

Before the 6.3, Mercedes sedans were never noted for their acceleration. But, they stuffed the big M100 engine from the 600 Pullman into the light bodied 280, and it was a screamer! My concept was a 6.3 on a drag strip smoking its tires with the headline “The last place you’d expect to find a Mercedes-Benz!”

We rented the Englishtown Dragstrip in New Jersey, picked up a 6.3 from Mercedes Corporate Headquarters in Montvale, and headed to off for the shoot the next day. Needless to say, we did a fair amount of impromptu drag racing with guys driving big block Chevys and Fords that afternoon and evening.

As we headed to the track, I picked up a gallon of bleach, as I heard it would really make the tires smoke (it did). The photographer snapped shots as the “Christmas Tree” turned green and I lit up the tires. We must have made 50 runs or more down the track to get the perfect shot. When we finished, I returned the car to Mercedes, feeling great about the ad and the photo session.

The next day, the Mercedes-Benz national sales manager called my boss, screaming. It seems we had put 500 miles on the car, wore out the tires and covered the rear fenders with molten rubber. Worst of all, this was a special order car that had already been sold! Seems I had failed to reveal to them we were going to drag the 6.3 on the photo shoot.

I did manage to keep my job, thank God.
Michael Salemi
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Douglas

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Re: Pagoda cameo in "Mad Men"
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2008, 12:10:58 »
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...the IBM Selectric II typewriters used in the show which weren't introduced until c. 1971.  



Apparently, the stylist claims to have been aware of the mistake with the Selectric:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2007-08-22-mad-men-props_N.htm

The first comment on the link above says the show is using Selectric III typewriters from the early 80s in the wrong (putty) color for the period. Oops!
« Last Edit: October 13, 2008, 12:13:49 by Douglas »

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Re: Pagoda cameo in "Mad Men"
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2008, 20:32:41 »
Forget the typewriters, I like the fact it's driven by a young vixen.
Mark

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Re: Pagoda cameo in "Mad Men"
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2008, 00:16:23 »
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Originally posted by Mark280SL

Forget the typewriters, I like the fact it's driven by a young vixen.


The typewriter driven by a young vixen???